Camping getting harder.

[dieseltojo]

There asking for comments in some sections.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-16/u ... news_perth

Unhappy campers: Confusion over WA camping and caravanning rule changes raises questions
Pitching a tent on private land not okay
Many listeners were shocked to learn landholders were required to obtain a permit from the local council if someone camped or parked a caravan on private land for more than three days.
"I think that is ridiculous," talkback caller Cheryl said.
"People for generations have been going to stay with their relatives and parking their caravans in the driveway and there haven't been any health and safety issues."
Ms Siekierka defended the rules, saying the law was not new but many people were unaware of it.
"[Stopping at private homes] impacts on the neighbours, and we need to look at whether there are waste facilities and whether it is safe for those people to be there," she said.
"Where are they getting their water from? Where is their waste going, what toilet facilities have they got?"

[Motherhen]

Submissions close 30th November. Have your say at http://dlg.wa.gov.au/Content/Legislatio ... aper2.aspx

[Legendts]

Another mob with a "uniform" on telling you what to do in your own home. Getting very typical of most, if not all councils.

[Motherhen]

Has anyone had difficulties opening the Feedback Form from https://www.dlg.wa.gov.au/Content/Legis ... per2.aspx?

I am getting this error message when I try to open the document

DLGerrormessage.jpg

[glanyard]

Motherhen,
It works for me so the trouble must be at your end. Try another (neighbour?) machine to see if that helps.
glanyard

[loub]

As with Glanys reply no problem opening the link MH

[Motherhen]

Pleased to hear you are not experiencing the same problem.

They have now sent me a working copy, which I have saved in .doc and .docx. If anyone does experience the same issues, please contact me and I can send you a copy.

Remember submissions close 30th November, and there is quite a lot to wade through.

Have your say

[TramcarTrev]

Pleased to hear you are not experiencing the same problem.

They have now sent me a working copy, which I have saved in .doc and .docx. If anyone does experience the same issues, please contact me and I can send you a copy.

Remember submissions close 30th November, and there is quite a lot to wade through.

Have your say

Have you heard anything further? Its nearly a year after submissions closed...

There is a chap on a property between Mudgee and Gulgong who allows camping on his land (in defiance of the ban on free camping by the local council) and he was aparently told he could not allow "campers" for the usual "safety concerns" so he managed to get around that by having guests by invitation and there is a sign that reads to the effect that "caravaners and campers have to phone xxxxxxxxx for an invitation". The council refused to give him a permit for using his place as a "Farmstay"... But then that is Mudgee, probably the most unfriendly town unless you are prepared to stay at their caravan parks and pay a lot of money for a toasted cheese sandwich and a glass of wine because there is an open fire...

[Motherhen]

All these enquiries have resulted into a knowledge of alternatives travellers are seeking, and the nature based parks concept was developed (I think prior to the last enquiry), and money has been put into more campgrounds in National Parks. We were recently visited by caravanners who spend some over two years in WA last round, and they have found more camping options open this time.

NSW had a similar enquiry at the same time as WA. I haven't of any results or changes there.

In WA (long standing) caravanners as guests were limited to three days at a time, and limits on how many nights a year you can have guests. From memory, NSW was similar, but only two consecutive nights. Regardless of the council at Mudgee, the laws of the land prohibit the landowner from having any paying guests, and allows only a limited number of invited guests (no payments made), unless he applies and gains approval to have paying campers there.

[TramcarTrev]

From memory, NSW was similar, but only two consecutive nights. Regardless of the council at Mudgee, the laws of the land prohibit the landowner from having any paying guests, and allows only a limited number of invited guests (no payments made), unless he applies and gains approval to have paying campers there.

Yes its only 2 nights.

The situation is political around Mudgee, if the Council took legal action then they could say good bye to being re-elected. A lot of the Winerys have small "campgrounds" attached where maybe 5-6 vans can stay and of course Mudgee relies on Wine to drag in tourist $$$. So its a ballancing act, the Van parks had all the free camps around Mudgee closed, there is not enough space in the Van parks so people find alternatives and the Council turn a blind eye unless they can benifit... Signs and bollards have gone up at all the "old" freecamps but its not "rangered"...

The inquiry in NSW I believe is on the backburner and will be there for some time, the NSW Govt has got itself into more strife than Flash Gordon over some other matters. The last I heard was that "Camping" was adequatley covered by the "Local Government Ordnances" so that would mean Councils would have to do the policing.