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TassieD
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:06 pm Posts: 1646 Location: Heywood, Vic.
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Re: hot water power point
No drilling Cyclone. It's the same type of switch you see in hotels etc that have hairdryers etc hardwired in so people can't pinch them.
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TassieD
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:06 pm Posts: 1646 Location: Heywood, Vic.
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Re: hot water power point
Found it, a Universal Switch, Permanent Connection. They have a locking ring inside the grommet that holds the cable in place so no amount of vibration will dislodge it. http://www.clipsal.com/Trade/Products/P ... o=C2032VTB
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:30 am |
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Cyclone
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:37 pm Posts: 2117 Location: Brisbane
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Re: hot water power point
Thanks Tassie, I had never seen one. The clipsal stuff is fairly modular. What you see in the photo is a two gang switch plate with a switch mech and the clipsal grommet insert fitted to it. This will be fine just as long as the electrician uses a double pole switch mech and not a standard one as it will be only single pole. Sid
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:45 am |
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PeterD
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:38 pm Posts: 1835 Location: Chain Valley Bay, near Newcastle
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Re: hot water power point
I would not have thought that this would be a good way to wire a fridge in. It provided extra complication when servicing it.
I think I would stick with the power socket and side entry plug.
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Old Techo
Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:23 pm Posts: 6799 Location: Melbourne
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Re: hot water power point
Cyclone wrote: This will be fine just as long as the electrician uses a double pole switch mech and not a standard one as it will be only single pole. Sid, in the olden days I thought one should not use regular flexible cable in a hard-wired situation? Equally that flexible cable not be secured with saddles/clips. Please straighten me out
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:09 pm |
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Cyclone
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:37 pm Posts: 2117 Location: Brisbane
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Re: hot water power point
Old Techo wrote: Cyclone wrote: This will be fine just as long as the electrician uses a double pole switch mech and not a standard one as it will be only single pole. Sid, in the olden days I thought one should not use regular flexible cable in a hard-wired situation? Equally that flexible cable not be secured with saddles/clips. Please straighten me out Hi OT, It is common from the isolating switch to the equipment. Sid
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dieseltojo
Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:06 pm Posts: 3798 Location: Doveton vic
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Re: hot water power point
I know nothing but I reckon once you hard wire a flex cable in it is replacing or being install as TPS, and is not specified as 15 amp. Probably not a problem but just saying. I have seen the elcheapo auto lights wired with flex directly, don't know if that is OK either. But what do I know.
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:59 pm |
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TassieD
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:06 pm Posts: 1646 Location: Heywood, Vic.
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Re: hot water power point
Fridge PeterD? The person that started the thread was talking about the plug on their HWS hence the thread being named hot water power point.
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:23 pm |
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Cyclone
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:37 pm Posts: 2117 Location: Brisbane
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Re: hot water power point
From AS3000:2007 Wiring rules 3.9.7.4 Flexible cords used as installation wiring Flexible cords used as installation wiring shall be of the heavy-duty sheathed type and installed in the same manner as insulated sheathed cables. Exception: Flexible cords need not be of the heavy-duty type if— (a) used for the connection of pendant socket-outlets; or (b) installed in a suitable wiring enclosure; or NOTE: See Clause 3.10.1 for requirements for enclosure of cables. (c) installed for the connection of equipment, in accordance with the equipment wiring provisions of Clause 4.3.5. Flexible cords installed as follows shall be regarded as installation wiring and shall comply with the requirements for installation wiring set out in this Section: (i) Permanently connected flexible cords, including flexible cords used as pendants for socket-outlets and those connected to an installation coupler. (ii) Flexible cords not open to view.
AS/NZS 3000:2007 148 Exceptions: 1 Flexible cords used as pendants for lamps, luminaires or provided with, and permanently connected to an appliance, shall not be regarded as installation wiring. 2 Flexible cords installed for the connection of a single appliance or luminaire shall not be regarded as installation wiring, provided that they— (i) (ii) do not exceed 2.5 m in length; and have a current-carrying capacity of not less than: (A) the current rating or setting of the circuit protective device; or (B) the actual load of the appliance or luminaire, subject to the minimum cross-sectional area of any conductor being not less than 0.75 mm2.
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:34 pm |
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Cyclone
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:37 pm Posts: 2117 Location: Brisbane
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Re: hot water power point
I would not consider the way TassieDs heater is wired as fixed even though it is wired directly to a switch. Sid
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:55 pm |
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