Factors having positive & negative influences on members

[Old Techo]

Nev, it's not WW3

I see it as an opportunity. That is why I made the suggestion. Besides I had to do something out of respect for the OP in the old thread

We all know that activity on this forum is a long way below what it once was. A few years ago there would be many dozens of posts every day. Obviously there is a reason for this change. The forum is just not isn't interesting enough or some members are reluctant to post for one or more reasons.

Maybe Glannie has a valid point and I'm arrogant but too stupid to recognise it? That is why I asked for some post examples to review. That can be by PM if anyone prefers.

So Nev, don't fret. Only good should arise

There are some regular day-to-day factors that have a negative influence on me. I'll list some later. Nothing wrong with anybody listing positive factors that we don't see enough of.

Thanks Admin

[dieseltojo]

I would say that things build up over time with some members, and things said in jest have a way of being seen as unfunny.
You try to be smart, then you take it to heart
'Cause it hurts when your ego is deflated
You don't realize that it's all compromise
And the problems are so overrated

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Having also been on the receiving end of the old “Know it all” Chestnut. I sympathize with OT on the matter.
I put it down as Glanyard thinking you are being "over familiar" and this is the give me space gambit.
OT, I can honestly say that in my view you have always been in there with a helpful approach.

I too stick my neck out with statements which I make in regard to my own trade, and try to keep things as honest and factual as possible.
I reckon you have poked a bear OT and that is the reaction of a bear. To slap away the stick.
We have all done it and that’s the truth, Who hasn’t.

I find Glanyard to be a taciturn type of character that doesn’t like personal jibes, but doesn’t mind jibbing others as much as the other way around.
You can see that in the reaction to statements of others. This too will be waffle.

If we want to say what we like or not, I hate religion and Politics in a forum. I see the thread on the government as a polarising thread which separates members and is designed to do that. But that is a communal fault, not an individual one. I am looking at it as a general principal that's all.

I won't be commenting on it any more as people of a different point of view just get belittled and I just don't see the need for that sort of a thread. It tends to go the way of breaking down and not building up.
Just my opinion of course.....

[J.REEVES]

Hi OT,
I am trying to read this thread on a bloody ipone so may have missed some but all I can say is don't change a thing. I need someone like yourself to pick up on my small small errors and use complete logic to diagnose a problem a bit like spock in Star Trek.
How could anyone think you would drive people away from the forum how ridiculous.


JR

[Motherhen]

While the thread in question did have some detail in the topic, many don't have enough and topics like recent ones "a couple of nights" or camp closure" are ones I pass over. On another forum we change topics adding more detail for the untrained members.

I have recently and reluctantly joined Facebook (under a pseudonym as their system would not accept my real name of Motherhen as Mother Hen or any other form). Marg puts up quite a few pictures each day, and the comments come in fast. A few of these get near a hundred replies, and over 200 likes. Nothing like that happens here. No wonder there are so few posts here; the readers are all on Facebook .

[Old Techo]

Fellas.... thank you all kindly for your support but that is not what I seek in this new thread. It is the negative influences that need flushing out and replaced with some positives.

Some negatives for example:

DT's hobby-horse is location, location, location.... to use the real-estate term. So that is a negative factor that niggles a few when members post when location is important or even critical to their post.

I get niggly when posters over-use the quote facility. It is not necessary to quote the immediately preceding post. When quote is used, often it can be edited down to a fraction of the original. Only enough is needed for context. Unnecessarily long posts can cause eye glaze.

All nigglies will discourage people. The niggling post may be too long and drawn out to bother reading or it is so concise it cannot be understood. I have been frustrated by many extremely concise posts. Frustration leads to disinterest.

Clearly abusive language and name-calling is a serious negative. It may be water off a duck's back for many but some more sensitive souls will be intimidated and remain forever quiet or be gone for good.

Glannie has identified arrogance as an issue. I agree that arrogance is damned annoying and hard to accept. Some pollies have it. Some celebrities have it. Apparently I may have it. The only caution I offer about anyone's perceived arrogance is the context must be very clear. The onus is on the poster to ensure clear context and avoid the possible arrogant label. The risk is highest during intended friendly banter. Sometimes with attempted humour we can push each other a tad far.

I'll put up some positives later.

[TeddyGQ]

OT, without using the "quote" facility at all. Exactly. Precise. Too the point. This site has very, very few experts in their field. They offer opinions, maybe of experience, but opinions. Don't get upset if your opinion is different to anothers. They too have an opinion.
And that's my opinion

[J.REEVES]

OT, without using the "quote" facility at all. Exactly. Precise. Too the point. This site has very, very few experts in their field. They offer opinions, maybe of experience, but opinions. Don't get upset if your opinion is different to anothers. They too have an opinion.
And that's my opinion

Hi Teddy,
I agree this site has very few experts but when it comes to caravan talk there are very few experts in the field anyway.
Admitably electrical regulations and some subjects on dynamics can require expert input but the majority of caravaning input is from experience.
The problem with many forums is you need some understanding of the subject to find the best imformation and if the information is coming from an expert how do know?

JR

[Old Techo]

They offer opinions, maybe of experience, but opinions. Don't get upset if your opinion is different to anothers. They too have an opinion.
And that's my opinion

Teddy, that is so true. Even medical specialists that cost an arm and leg will only offer you 'their opinion'.

Opinions are all fine and dandy and can be very valuable. What is not is when an 'opinion' contradicts the laws of physics. Said laws are not opinions. They are chiselled in stone. Despite this at times some will challenge these laws by making silly claims based upon their own beliefs. It can be very difficult and time consuming to compose a measured and polite response to some 'flat earth' people without being labelled by them as a smartarse.

Opinions on caravan parks or free camping sites are very valuable. If you offer me your opinion on a van park that you recently used then I would regard that as valuable horse's mouth stuff. I'd trust that advice as current and your best assessment. However please don't bother me with your opinion on the theory of dark matter

[Smokeydk]

I'm not going to take sides.......I joined in 2010...couple months after I purchased my caravan.......and have had a lot of support from all members who helped in any way

But in saying that ....it upset me greatly that I can start a thread on the 1st Jan this year and not get one reply..125 viewed

I too feel this Forum has slowed down greatly since FB C&M has opened

[TeddyGQ]

Point us to the thread in question Smokydk and we will see if we can illicit some opinions.